DONALD TRUMP INDICTED
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Hope we get interviews from the crooked jurors, especially the two that either had no news sources and the truth social one.
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Oh dang, here's another vote that the Dems lost. They "should of" worked harder to keep his support!
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Trump wasn't a client of his, but of course this would be something that would be posted. Robert DeNiro was though and he's out there spewing hate without a care in the world.
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
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WHY TRUMP’S VERDICT IS A BAD OMEN FOR AMERICA
In corrupt countries, it is a common practice for politicians in power to lock up, or even kill, their opponents.
Russia notoriously is known for their brutal use of the legal system to squash any dissent. Many opposition members have lost their lives behind bars, including most recently Alexei Navalny.
In countries like Brazil, Bolsonaro is still fighting for his freedoms and right to run for president again. Lula, the current president, has gone after him and all his supporters wielding the power of their corrupt legal system to squash any uprising.
China is another example where the legal system is weaponized to silence dissent. The Chinese government has a history of imprisoning political dissidents, with prominent figures like Nobel Peace Prize laureate Liu Xiaobo, who died in custody, symbolizing the regime's ruthless approach.
Turkey, under President Erdoğan, has seen a dramatic increase in the use of the judiciary to crack down on political opponents and journalists. The aftermath of the failed 2016 coup attempt led to mass arrests and purges, highlighting the regime's grip on power through legal intimidation.
Venezuela's government, under Nicolás Maduro, frequently uses the courts to imprison opposition leaders, further destabilizing the country.
The term “Banana republic,” usually reserved for corrupt and unstable countries, has been bantered around recently to describe how far the mighty US has fallen. Examples include Guatemala and Honduras, where political figures use their power to imprison rivals and suppress dissent.
Now, it seems the US is joining the ranks. The Democrats have gone after Trump, leading to a guilty verdict on 34 counts.
But this isn't for war crimes, spying on Americans, embezzlement, or murder.
No, Billionaire Trump got convicted for misclassifying a $130,000 payment to a porn star for signing an NDA.
This kind of petty political maneuvering is what you'd expect from a Russia, not the world's leading democracy.
Elon:
“Indeed, great damage was done today to the public’s faith in the American legal system. If a former President can be criminally convicted over such a trivial matter – motivated by politics, rather than justice – then anyone is at risk of a similar fate.”
Elon is right. The verdict against Trump is more than just a blow to one man; it’s a dangerous precedent that could undermine the very foundations of American democracy.
The American legal system should be a pillar of impartiality and fairness, not a tool for political retribution.
It’s time to wake up and ensure that justice remains blind, not politically motivated, before it is too late.
In corrupt countries, it is a common practice for politicians in power to lock up, or even kill, their opponents.
Russia notoriously is known for their brutal use of the legal system to squash any dissent. Many opposition members have lost their lives behind bars, including most recently Alexei Navalny.
In countries like Brazil, Bolsonaro is still fighting for his freedoms and right to run for president again. Lula, the current president, has gone after him and all his supporters wielding the power of their corrupt legal system to squash any uprising.
China is another example where the legal system is weaponized to silence dissent. The Chinese government has a history of imprisoning political dissidents, with prominent figures like Nobel Peace Prize laureate Liu Xiaobo, who died in custody, symbolizing the regime's ruthless approach.
Turkey, under President Erdoğan, has seen a dramatic increase in the use of the judiciary to crack down on political opponents and journalists. The aftermath of the failed 2016 coup attempt led to mass arrests and purges, highlighting the regime's grip on power through legal intimidation.
Venezuela's government, under Nicolás Maduro, frequently uses the courts to imprison opposition leaders, further destabilizing the country.
The term “Banana republic,” usually reserved for corrupt and unstable countries, has been bantered around recently to describe how far the mighty US has fallen. Examples include Guatemala and Honduras, where political figures use their power to imprison rivals and suppress dissent.
Now, it seems the US is joining the ranks. The Democrats have gone after Trump, leading to a guilty verdict on 34 counts.
But this isn't for war crimes, spying on Americans, embezzlement, or murder.
No, Billionaire Trump got convicted for misclassifying a $130,000 payment to a porn star for signing an NDA.
This kind of petty political maneuvering is what you'd expect from a Russia, not the world's leading democracy.
Elon:
“Indeed, great damage was done today to the public’s faith in the American legal system. If a former President can be criminally convicted over such a trivial matter – motivated by politics, rather than justice – then anyone is at risk of a similar fate.”
Elon is right. The verdict against Trump is more than just a blow to one man; it’s a dangerous precedent that could undermine the very foundations of American democracy.
The American legal system should be a pillar of impartiality and fairness, not a tool for political retribution.
It’s time to wake up and ensure that justice remains blind, not politically motivated, before it is too late.
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
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I agree that this seems like not that big of a deal, but the difference is Trump has done a bunch of stuff that he should be prosecuted for. I’m not gonna feel bad for him when he tried to overthrow an election. That’s the trial we need.
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This isn't a Trump person's view of this. I guess this is just another first that Trump has been involved in.
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
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I fail to see anything improper about the trial or the way it was conducted. Trump got a chance to give a full defense of himself and his conduct, with 12 jurors that he and his legal team had input into selecting, including multiple jurors who got news from sources like Truth Social or Fox. Trump's legal team was allowed to call any witnesses they wanted, including Trump. They made their case fully and completely. And they lost, fair and square. If you think somehow the evil puppet master Biden orchestrated this entire outcome, you don't really understand how the judicial system works, nor how state vs federal government works. All these foul calls by the GOP after the verdict just amount to a bunch of crying because Trump finally faced consequences for doing crimes.
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It was just the tip of the iceberg of his crimes. Probably the least of them.
"Be Legendary."
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Trump is doing a press conference about his 34 felony conviction. Here's a thread of clips. Honestly he looks and sounds rough. I bet he didn't get much sleep last night.
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He’s had better days.
In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not gonna have to vote.
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CNN Senior Legal Analyst Describes How The Trump Conviction Was A Political Hit Job
1. "The judge donated money... in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New York judges from making political donations—to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation."
2. Alvin Bragg boasted on the campaign trail in an overwhelmingly Democrat county, “It is a fact that I have sued Trump over 100 times.”
3. "Most importantly, the DA’s charges against Trump push the outer boundaries of the law and due process."
4. "The charges against Trump are obscure, and nearly entirely unprecedented. In fact, no state prosecutor — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever."
5. The DA inflated misdemeanors past the statute of limitations and "electroshocked them back to life" by alleging the falsification of business records was committed 'with intent to commit another crime.'
6. "Inexcusably, the DA refused to specify what those unlawful means actually were — and the judge declined to force them to pony up — until right before closing arguments. So much for the constitutional obligation to provide notice to the defendant of the accusations against him in advance of trial."
7. "In these key respects, the charges against Trump aren’t just unusual. They’re bespoke, seemingly crafted individually for the former president and nobody else."
8. "The Manhattan DA’s employees reportedly have called this the “Zombie Case” because of various legal infirmities, including its bizarre charging mechanism. But it’s better characterized as the Frankenstein Case, cobbled together with ill-fitting parts into an ugly, awkward, but more-or-less functioning contraption that just might ultimately turn on its creator."
Link to full article below.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article ... e-law.html
Prosecutors Got Trump — But They Contorted the Law
By Elie Honig, a former federal and state prosecutor and a contributor to CAFE
1. "The judge donated money... in plain violation of a rule prohibiting New York judges from making political donations—to a pro-Biden, anti-Trump political operation."
2. Alvin Bragg boasted on the campaign trail in an overwhelmingly Democrat county, “It is a fact that I have sued Trump over 100 times.”
3. "Most importantly, the DA’s charges against Trump push the outer boundaries of the law and due process."
4. "The charges against Trump are obscure, and nearly entirely unprecedented. In fact, no state prosecutor — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever."
5. The DA inflated misdemeanors past the statute of limitations and "electroshocked them back to life" by alleging the falsification of business records was committed 'with intent to commit another crime.'
6. "Inexcusably, the DA refused to specify what those unlawful means actually were — and the judge declined to force them to pony up — until right before closing arguments. So much for the constitutional obligation to provide notice to the defendant of the accusations against him in advance of trial."
7. "In these key respects, the charges against Trump aren’t just unusual. They’re bespoke, seemingly crafted individually for the former president and nobody else."
8. "The Manhattan DA’s employees reportedly have called this the “Zombie Case” because of various legal infirmities, including its bizarre charging mechanism. But it’s better characterized as the Frankenstein Case, cobbled together with ill-fitting parts into an ugly, awkward, but more-or-less functioning contraption that just might ultimately turn on its creator."
Link to full article below.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article ... e-law.html
Prosecutors Got Trump — But They Contorted the Law
By Elie Honig, a former federal and state prosecutor and a contributor to CAFE
The first time I ever took a jury verdict, I almost passed out. I was a brand-new prosecutor, 29 years old, and had just given my first closing argument a few days earlier. Since then, the trial team and I had been whiling away our time, interrupted only by the occasional note from the jury seeking testimony or legal instructions as they deliberated. All of a sudden, we got word from the court clerk: Come on up, we have a verdict.
Let me tell you, there’s little in life that causes a burst of uncut adrenaline quite like the arrival of a verdict. I managed (barely) to hold it together as we performed the arcane, dramatic ritual that concludes every criminal trial. The judge brings the lawyers and the defendant back into the courtroom, the security officers take their places, the jury files in solemnly, and the judge asks: Ladies and gentlemen, have you reached a verdict? (Ummm, yes, Your Honor, that’s why we’re all back out here.) As I stood at the prosecution table while the jury took their places back in the box, I felt dizzy and had to use my arms to brace myself.
Moments before the jury read the verdict, my supervisor — a grizzled trial buzzsaw known for his blistering closing arguments — leaned over and whispered to me: “Whatever they say, no reaction. Don’t move a muscle.” I don’t know what I would’ve done if not for that last-second command. Maybe I would’ve been sensible enough not to react either way, but I’m not sure. As the jury read out its findings — starting with a “not guilty” on count one, to my horror, but then moving along to a string of convictions — I didn’t budge, or breathe, or blink...
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
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Oh, apparently Speaker Johnson just wants the corrupt GOP SCOTUS to overrule the conviction. Because of course he does.
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I don't believe that the SCOTUS can rule on this state case. It will go through the NY Supreme Court to rule on the appeals, and I believe that the entire court is filled entirely with black female justices. Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
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This was intreresting if true. Just lucky is my guess.
• From a list of 24 sitting judges, one judge was supposed to be “randomly selected” to take this case — Judge Merchan was selected, but he wasn’t even on the List…
—— “he’s an “acting judge”
• Judge Merchan is not only a Biden Donor, he donated to an organization called “Stop Trump”
• Judge Merchan was “randomly selected” for the following cases
— Trump Hush Money Hoax Case
— Trump organization Fraud Case
— Steve Bannon Case
• From a list of 24 sitting judges, one judge was supposed to be “randomly selected” to take this case — Judge Merchan was selected, but he wasn’t even on the List…
—— “he’s an “acting judge”
• Judge Merchan is not only a Biden Donor, he donated to an organization called “Stop Trump”
• Judge Merchan was “randomly selected” for the following cases
— Trump Hush Money Hoax Case
— Trump organization Fraud Case
— Steve Bannon Case
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
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Reuters
Trump supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-suppor ... 35137.html
Trump supporters call for riots and violent retribution after verdict
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-suppor ... 35137.html
In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not gonna have to vote.
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There are always going to be idiots out there.
"When we all think alike, nobody is thinking" - Walter Lippmann
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
"Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have the exact measure of the injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them." ~ Frederick Douglass
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'Civil War' Warning Issued by MAGA After Donald Trump Guilty Verdict
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-h ... ar-1906671
Writing on X, formerly Twitter, political commentator Joey Mannarino wrote: "The Civil War just began. We no longer live in a democracy."
In another post he added: "As of today, with this fake guilty verdict against Trump, America is no longer the United States.
Tim Pool, a conservative commentator with over 2 million followers, wrote: "war."
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-h ... ar-1906671
Writing on X, formerly Twitter, political commentator Joey Mannarino wrote: "The Civil War just began. We no longer live in a democracy."
In another post he added: "As of today, with this fake guilty verdict against Trump, America is no longer the United States.
Tim Pool, a conservative commentator with over 2 million followers, wrote: "war."
In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not gonna have to vote.
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Trump’s new image: Corporate cheat
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-n ... 57712.html
When Donald Trump first ran for president in 2016, he pitched himself as a polished businessman who would run the country with the same aplomb he applied to the gilded company that made him a billionaire, the Trump Organization.
Eight years later, in his third presidential campaign, Trump is a convicted felon, snared by his own shoddy business practices. A series of media exposés, civil and criminal trials, and other investigations has revealed Trump to be a fraudster who has repeatedly pushed the boundaries of legality in his business career and is now paying the price.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-n ... 57712.html
When Donald Trump first ran for president in 2016, he pitched himself as a polished businessman who would run the country with the same aplomb he applied to the gilded company that made him a billionaire, the Trump Organization.
Eight years later, in his third presidential campaign, Trump is a convicted felon, snared by his own shoddy business practices. A series of media exposés, civil and criminal trials, and other investigations has revealed Trump to be a fraudster who has repeatedly pushed the boundaries of legality in his business career and is now paying the price.
In four years, you don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good, you’re not gonna have to vote.
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Source? (Hint: The bolded text is incorrect.)